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Walkable Communities

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- Is creating a walkable community a design issue? Counterpoint: cities in Europe that have extreme car congestion and are still rife with pedestrians. However, these cities were originally designed for pedestrian traffic.

- Walking can be seen as 'competitive' to driving in the sense that it is competing against advertising campaigns and other media produced by car companies etc.

- There are micro issues of design (are there enough sidewalks? are they wide enough?) and macro issues of design (is the mixture of zoning diverse enough to provide incentives for people to want to walk around?)

- Density and congestion can actually promote walking

- Possibility of really plugging the idea of walkable communities for improved health and reduced health care costs

- How do you plan municipalities to promote mixed use? How much control and influence do planners and policy makers have over affecting the composition of a community?

- There are explicit laws and regulations that can be used, and then there are incentives (e.g. if you, as landowner, adhere to these recommendations put forth by the developer, the development process will be faster, easier, etc.) But ultimately, the landowner holds a lot of clout that can only be defeated or mitigated by regulation.

- How do we break the habits of people who instinctively take the car when they could be walking? E.g. how do we produce incentives for consumers in addition to incentives and regulations for businesses?

- Perhaps encouraging and providing incentives to students and the population at large to travel, they will see more communities that rely on walking and be more willing to adopt that change here

- Provide exemplar cases -- e.g. use Kensignton Market as a car-free zone, do a good job, and use it to promote further change. This will likely involve changing our description of the solution to reducing car congestion in the area instead of eliminating it (e.g. provide easy mechanisms for deliveries to be made on time by delivery vehicles etc. but bar most consumer auto traffic).

- Existing communities are designed by planning streets first (i.e. we think of the cars first) and then transit etc. with pedestrians last. There are examples now of communities that are being built with pedestrians in mind first (e.g. Markham Cornell), and we need more exemplar cases like this.

- And we need to take into account that our population is aging, and the walking distances we estimate as 'reasonable' accomodate people of reduced mobility, although if we improve the situation of pedestrians, the health benefits of walking may allow for greater mobility in old age

- Density does several things:

  1. Diminshes distances between services, thus increasing proximity of things you need/want.

  2. Increases auto congestion, providing discouragement to drivers and encouraging pedestrians

  3. ?

- Is there an ideal density?

- A greenfield plan is considered to be "transit-supportive" if there is a density of 50 persons or jobs per hectare

- Downtown Toronto is 400, Manhattan perhaps roughly 600

- We need to be aware of our language when 'selling' the idea of density to new communities, so that the emphasis is on great design (which necessarily includes considerations of density) instead of simply talking about density explicitly and raising the hackles of those who associate density with ugliness.

- It is our responsibility to educate people about great design, because we all have access to tools now that make the transmission of such information possible.

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I think this is one of the best topics I've read so far. The idea that the long-term effort has to be towards cutting out the need for so many long commutes/trips... walking will always be the best for a truly healthy community (and I mean healthy in many ways here.)

I consider myself a pedestrian. Disabled in that it takes me hours to walk from downtown out into the barrens of Don Mills and Downsview...

So eight years ago I bought my first running machine, and consider myself hybrid (the vehicle is a tiny fold-up kick scooter that has power-assist (battery pack and little motor.)

After six years and over 10,000km of commutes using these tiny scoots, I would like friends and neighbours to enjoy the experience also:

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LocK
Posted 04:30, 6 Apr 2008
I grew up outside Toronto in the car dependent golden horshoe area, and moved to Toronto for university, and haven't left since. Public transit & the general walkability of the city is addictive. I've specifically have lived in 3 quite geographically different neighbourhoods in Toronto due to their "walkability". What was key was having a good retail/social mix with liveable pricing. Each of these areas had a library, subway stop & 24hr route, discount grocery, pub, fast food/restaurant, major pharmacy store, and assorted clothing/gift/furniture stores, all within walking distance, everything for day to day needs. This was great for single-status life, rent/own of a one bedroom place in these areas was fine. My struggle now with "walkability" is finding an AFFORDABLE family-size dwelling (with outdoor space) within a walkable neighborhood. Any house that you could afford while paying for daycare too, is not close to anything, you'd need to take a bus to get milk. Condos are still an option, but they're not condusive to allowing small kids to play outside. I wish developers would build high rises with balconies that are big enough for planters & a play area for kids (screened/railings so kids won't fall) rather than just a skinny strip for two chairs. Then condos would have more of the appeal of traditional houses & increase density leading to closer retail development/walkability. Now I'm considering moving outside of the city because any affordable family size housing with outdoor space is so inconvenient transit/walking-wise, I'd need a car, so I might as well move out of the city.
Posted 16:18, 12 Apr 2008
Good stuff... pity it's not under an open license, as I'd like to use it on Appropedia.org
Posted 04:04, 7 May 2008
i'm ok if you copy & past my comment to that site, I went there but did not know where to post it.
Posted 00:28, 6 Aug 2008
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